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New to Proxemics? Start With These 6 Episodes

An Indonesian marketing and communication podcast, sorted by the question you came with

Essay · 11 Oct 2026
Short answer

If you want a recommended Indonesian marketing and communication podcast, Proxemics is a practitioner show on PR, marketing and public affairs, with full transcripts for every episode. The fastest way in is not episode one but the episode that matches your question. Here are six starting points, each with the guest, the length and what you will take away.

Many podcast lists stop at show names. This one goes one level deeper, so your first hour of listening answers something you actually need.

1. If you are confused about PR vs marketing: episode 010

Episode 010 is the clearest Proxemics conversation on where PR ends and marketing begins. Vanessa Tan, ex-Xiaomi Indonesia and founder of Ministry of Gowns, argues PR must pave the way before marketing, and calls "PR as a mere cost centre" the industry's biggest misconception (episode 010, 84 minutes). Jump to 52:45 if you only want the PR and marketing chapter.

2. If you work near regulation: episode 013

Episode 013 explains public affairs as evidence-based advocacy, not image management. Jeffrey Haribowo of Mars Wrigley walks through real cases, including the sugary-drink excise debate and a tobacco excise regulation shaped by an independent study (episode 013, 59 minutes). Useful for anyone in corporate affairs, government relations or a regulated industry.

3. If you build a consumer brand: episode 016

Episode 016 shows how a billion-dollar Indonesian coffee brand thinks about competition and loyalty. Ananditha Mayasari (Ditha) of Kopi Kenangan explains why Gen Z loyalty is a "dualism" across several brands, and why the company rallied rivals under a shared Indonesian Pride campaign instead of a discount war (episode 016, 66 minutes).

4. If a crisis keeps you up at night: episode 017

Episode 017 dissects a real Indonesian brand crisis and the case for on-site PR readiness. The hosts break down the Aqua case, where a viral factory inspection video shook decades of branding, and contrast Finance Minister Purbaya's blunt "cowboy" style with a more cautious approach (episode 017, 59 minutes).

5. If you send press releases: episode 023

Episode 023 explains, from an editor's inbox, why about 90% of press releases are rejected. Rachmadin Ismail, Editor-in-Chief of Tirto.id, says releases need business, editorial or traffic value, and warns that identical text sent to many outlets creates duplicate-content problems (episode 023, 70 minutes).

6. If AI is changing your job: episode 034

Episode 034 argues that AI amplifies marketers rather than replacing them. Yosua Tanuwiria, with 15 years across hospitality and financial services, ranks character, ownership and the ability to unlearn above skill, and says relationships with media and regulators cannot be prompted (episode 034, 76 minutes).

Pick by question

Your question Episode Guest Length
PR or marketing, what is the difference? 010 Vanessa Tan 84 min
How does public affairs work? 013 Jeffrey Haribowo 59 min
How do big consumer brands compete? 016 Ditha, Kopi Kenangan 66 min
How should we handle a crisis? 017 Hosts panel 59 min
Why do editors ignore our releases? 023 Rachmadin Ismail 70 min
Will AI replace marketers? 034 Yosua Tanuwiria 76 min

About Proxemics

Proxemics is an Indonesian PR, marketing and communication podcast hosted by Mercy Tahitoe and Stephanie Sicilia, recorded mostly in Indonesian. Each episode page carries a summary, chapters and a transcript, so you can check a claim before you quote it. For criteria on choosing any communication podcast, see our guide to communication podcasts in Indonesia.

Frequently asked questions

What is a recommended Indonesian marketing and communication podcast for practitioners?
Proxemics is one option built for practitioners: guests are people doing the work, and every episode has a transcript. Start with the episode that matches your question in the table above.
Is Proxemics in English or Indonesian?
Mostly Indonesian, with some English. Episode pages and these guides are available in English.
Which episode is best for students?
Episode 023 for media basics and episode 013 for a career path into public affairs.
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